Comments on: Diet http://gettingstronger.org Train yourself to thrive on stress Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:33:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Todd http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-9221 Todd Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:39:36 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-9221 Roz, Glad to hear this article clicked for you! If you use the subjective perception of hunger as the cue and eating as the response to extinguish, then you have to wait around for the hunger to "happen". And spontaneous hunger can be somewhat unpredictable and random. So it doesn't lend itself to systematic extinction or deconditioning. Whereas triggers of hunger -- the presentation and aroma of food -- are much easier to deliberately control. So cue exposure can be quite deliberate and even enhanced or intensified to provoke a response on cue. That's why I think they are good focal points for deconditioning. The result is being able to walk through a kitchen, restaurant, bakery, etc. or be around others who are eating, without being sucked in. Incidentally, since I've written this original article, I've modified my view on the role of preprandial insulin secretion as a source of hunger, and I plan to edit this article on Diet to reflect my current understanding. I now believe that the the primary cause of cue-driven hunger (as opposed to circadian hunger) is input to the hypothalamic appetite centers via the amygdala, and ultimately from sensorial inputs such as the olfactory bulb. I think that preprandial insulin fluctuations are more of an concurrent effect of stimulation of the lateral hypothalamus, rather than a cause, of the hunger. I've written about this in my two most recent posts, "<a href="http://gettingstronger.org/2011/11/obesity-starts-in-the-brain-2/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Obesity starts in the brain</strong></a>" and "<a href="http://gettingstronger.org/2012/01/hormesis-and-the-limbic-brain/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Hormesis and the limbic brain</strong></a>" Todd Roz,

Glad to hear this article clicked for you!

If you use the subjective perception of hunger as the cue and eating as the response to extinguish, then you have to wait around for the hunger to “happen”. And spontaneous hunger can be somewhat unpredictable and random. So it doesn’t lend itself to systematic extinction or deconditioning. Whereas triggers of hunger — the presentation and aroma of food — are much easier to deliberately control. So cue exposure can be quite deliberate and even enhanced or intensified to provoke a response on cue. That’s why I think they are good focal points for deconditioning. The result is being able to walk through a kitchen, restaurant, bakery, etc. or be around others who are eating, without being sucked in.

Incidentally, since I’ve written this original article, I’ve modified my view on the role of preprandial insulin secretion as a source of hunger, and I plan to edit this article on Diet to reflect my current understanding. I now believe that the the primary cause of cue-driven hunger (as opposed to circadian hunger) is input to the hypothalamic appetite centers via the amygdala, and ultimately from sensorial inputs such as the olfactory bulb. I think that preprandial insulin fluctuations are more of an concurrent effect of stimulation of the lateral hypothalamus, rather than a cause, of the hunger. I’ve written about this in my two most recent posts, “Obesity starts in the brain” and “Hormesis and the limbic brain”

Todd

]]> By: Roz Watkins http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-9219 Roz Watkins Tue, 24 Jan 2012 20:54:28 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-9219 Wow, interesting article and website! Lots to think about. I also use "animal training" techniques to help people with weight loss, but instead of extinguishing hunger as a cue, I use hunger as the cue, and extinguish eating in the absence of the cue. But I'm thinking I may need to get people to be more active in using classical conditioning to extinguish their insulin response to other cues, such as smells and sights of foods. Thanks for the ideas! Wow, interesting article and website! Lots to think about.
I also use “animal training” techniques to help people with weight loss, but instead of extinguishing hunger as a cue, I use hunger as the cue, and extinguish eating in the absence of the cue. But I’m thinking I may need to get people to be more active in using classical conditioning to extinguish their insulin response to other cues, such as smells and sights of foods. Thanks for the ideas!

]]> By: Low Calories Fruits | Low Calorie Recipes for Two http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-8215 Low Calories Fruits | Low Calorie Recipes for Two Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:15:10 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-8215 [...] Getting Stronger – Diet [...] [...] Getting Stronger – Diet [...]

]]> By: Todd http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-4264 Todd Tue, 04 Oct 2011 13:52:33 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-4264 You ask an excellent question, George. I do not know what the perfect diet is -- or if there is one that is perfect for all people. I do like your quest for an anti-angiogenesis menu. In fact, many of the foods that are most potent inhibitors of angiogenesis contain the very same phytochemicals that activate our endogenous antioxidant defenses, that I discussed in my article "<a href="http://gettingstronger.org/2011/03/the-case-against-antioxidants/" rel="nofollow">The case against antioxidants</a>". For an elegant discussion of anti-angiogenesis foods, see this TED Talk by William Li -- especially the second half of it, which addresses diet: http://www.ted.com/talks/william_li.html The list of anti-angiogenesis foods from Li's talk is here: http://blog.ted.com/2010/02/10/dr_william_lis/ You ask an excellent question, George. I do not know what the perfect diet is — or if there is one that is perfect for all people. I do like your quest for an anti-angiogenesis menu. In fact, many of the foods that are most potent inhibitors of angiogenesis contain the very same phytochemicals that activate our endogenous antioxidant defenses, that I discussed in my article
“The case against antioxidants“.

For an elegant discussion of anti-angiogenesis foods, see this TED Talk by William Li — especially the second half of it, which addresses diet:
http://www.ted.com/talks/william_li.html

The list of anti-angiogenesis foods from Li’s talk is here:
http://blog.ted.com/2010/02/10/dr_william_lis/

]]> By: George http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-4245 George Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:29:38 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-4245 Thank you for your comment and support. So, I am done with meal frequency. My next quest is the 'perfect' meal on a nutrient and digestive basis. Food sequence, food combination and anti angiogenesis menus are my leads what are your thoughts on this, Is there a perfect daily menu you think? As far as I have seen paleo diets exclude several important factors from their theory as those previously mentioned. Kind Regards Thank you for your comment and support. So, I am done with meal frequency. My next quest is the ‘perfect’ meal on a nutrient and digestive basis. Food sequence, food combination and anti angiogenesis menus are my leads what are your thoughts on this, Is there a perfect daily menu you think?
As far as I have seen paleo diets exclude several important factors from their theory as those previously mentioned.
Kind Regards

]]> By: Todd http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-4222 Todd Mon, 03 Oct 2011 04:29:19 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-4222 George - Thank you for the kind words. Food is of course a necessity, but it is also a "stress" on our system and eating without rest is at the root of many ailments, IBS among them. I would argue that the "stress" of not eating for most of a day is more beneficial and less harmful than the stress of eating throughout the day without pause. Your tailor-made IF schedule sounds great - I really support individualization and "voluntary" stress over any regimented schedule. I do believe you can practice this for the rest of your life. I've been doing it for more than a year and it gets easier with each week. It's not a diet, it's a way of life. I've yet to find any evidence that it is harmful way to eat; most likely it is how our ancestors ate before "civilized" agriculture and more recently the "economy of abundance" allowed most of us in the West to eat without limit. George – Thank you for the kind words. Food is of course a necessity, but it is also a “stress” on our system and eating without rest is at the root of many ailments, IBS among them. I would argue that the “stress” of not eating for most of a day is more beneficial and less harmful than the stress of eating throughout the day without pause. Your tailor-made IF schedule sounds great – I really support individualization and “voluntary” stress over any regimented schedule. I do believe you can practice this for the rest of your life. I’ve been doing it for more than a year and it gets easier with each week. It’s not a diet, it’s a way of life. I’ve yet to find any evidence that it is harmful way to eat; most likely it is how our ancestors ate before “civilized” agriculture and more recently the “economy of abundance” allowed most of us in the West to eat without limit.

]]> By: George http://gettingstronger.org/diet/comment-page-1/#comment-4214 George Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:00:21 +0000 http://gettingstronger.org/?page_id=45#comment-4214 Hi Todd, I found out of pure luck a video of yours in youtube. I faced IBS and anxiety for various reasons. So, I thoroughly searched various 'cures'. An MD in Greece, god bless him, introduced me to fasting. I have done 3 days with no water and food, i could not believe that i was capable. I do not think that i will do this with no water again. However, this mind game was so revealing and of course no sign of IBS symptoms. After your video, I have read all of the books that you have mentioned as well as many other for IF so i tried both ADF (24h) and fast5. Eatstopeat i was doing it after my 3 day fast. I made a completely tailor made program to my working schedule such as weekend free,on monday i exercise after work and then i eat 20:00(1st 24h fast) on tuesday, wednesday and thursday i eat at 15:00 and when i am at home at 20:00. On Friday i do the same as on Monday, workout and then at 20:00 i eat. So, I have Monday 24h, Tuesday/Wedensday/Thursday 19h and Friday 24h fast. On weekends i 'fool' my system by eating regularly breakfast/lunch/dinner, i hang out with friends and i relax my mind. This program is terrific for my schedule, however i want to ask you a. can i keep on doing this for the rest fo my life? or perhaps the stress on the 'system' is long enough to cause trouble. I am a thorough researcher of books and internet and i am quite positive that you run a unique blog. God bless you for your giving personality. George Hi Todd,

I found out of pure luck a video of yours in youtube. I faced IBS and anxiety for various reasons. So, I thoroughly searched various ‘cures’.
An MD in Greece, god bless him, introduced me to fasting. I have done 3 days with no water and food, i could not believe that i was capable. I do not think that i will do this with no water again. However, this mind game was so revealing and of course no sign of IBS symptoms. After your video, I have read all of the books that you have mentioned as well as many other for IF so i tried both ADF (24h) and fast5. Eatstopeat i was doing it after my 3 day fast. I made a completely tailor made program to my working schedule such as weekend free,on monday i exercise after work and then i eat 20:00(1st 24h fast) on tuesday, wednesday and thursday i eat at 15:00 and when i am at home at 20:00. On Friday i do the same as on Monday, workout and then at 20:00 i eat. So, I have Monday 24h, Tuesday/Wedensday/Thursday 19h and Friday 24h fast. On weekends i ‘fool’ my system by eating regularly breakfast/lunch/dinner, i hang out with friends and i relax my mind. This program is terrific for my schedule, however i want to ask you a. can i keep on doing this for the rest fo my life? or perhaps the stress on the ‘system’ is long enough to cause trouble.
I am a thorough researcher of books and internet and i am quite positive that you run a unique blog. God bless you for your giving personality.
George

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